Removing the Bronze Soldier in Tallin

I live in estonia,my mom is russian but my dad is from estonia,and we support removing the statiue

Fascists, it is brutal

tallinn*

Its Tallinn btw

No trace of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact to be left in Estonia or anywhere else. Russians should shut up and go. I'm from Israel and I would stand by Estonia in fight if needed.

I from America.

I think that Estonians are unworthy to be people.

Most likely to Estonia нашлют sanctions, on all that is possible.

Estonia is falling apart everybody run and hope for escape.
Estonians and russians are both .........

every person in his right mind knows that russians are criminals. i'm sure that all the eastern block countries support estonia about this issue, we all have the murderers and thieves russians.

>> #6 by Mark Tomson, Apr 27, 2007
>> I from America.
>> I think that Estonians are unworthy to be people.
And who are you to decide over the whole nation are they worth to be called as people?

The statue with the corpses were moved to more peaceful place than near the trolley stop beneath the midtown air. Noone is destroying anything. There will be no peace for the dead if there are some embittered estonian people, whose parents were deported to Siberia and who tried to take down this statue. Government made the right decision! To the cemetary, where is the right quiet place for memorializing.

And those devastating russian youngsters didn't know by themselves what they were fighting for. Just a will of iron to break the city's property and steal alcohol and underwear from the stores.

TO Andreas: You are far from the truth. To Siberia already for a long time send nobody.

Estonia could be understood if monuments to Lenin or Stalin have been removed. Estonia always wanted to copy a history under itself, that she and does.

The bronze soldier a symbol of a victory over fascism, instead of a symbol of enmity

You never were in Russia, visited to Saint Petersburg or to Moscow. You in fact were never in these fine cities. In fact you know nothing about this big and unsolved country. You know about Russia only on hearings, and in fact this very interesting country. Visit her and if you will understand her though a drop - you can write such messages with clean conscience

Idiots.

The fool - fool will notice from far (c) Russian saying

Марина :) Немного не так пишеться

Дурак - дурака увидит из далека :))))

Привет Дима :) У меня плоховастенько с английским :(, хотя тут засел один засранец и все портит :))) я бы сказала "В семье не без урода" :)

Ты про того эстонца? а ниобрашай внимания, наверника какой-то подросток 13 лет, который наигрался в войнушку с третьи рейхом :D

Да ты наверно прав, не стоит спорить с этим шовинистом малолетним :)) Мне понравилось высказывание Andreas, как западные подданые наивны, ведь в Сибирь не ссылают уже больше века, а они все в это верят :) Можно им сказать что медведы ходят в кремле и они купятся xD :))))))

Дима думаю не очень удачная мысль тут переписываться, а то у эстонца начнеться ПМС ;)

Рад был пообщаться с вами, Марина! до свидания!

Excuse for our conversation:))))

me2 Dima :)

The most beautiful city in the world - Russia:))

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petersburg

What for a monument have demolished, muhahahaha

http://agitka.com/images/383.jpg

Like I said:
The statue with the corpses were moved to more peaceful place than near the trolley stop beneath the midtown air. Noone is destroying anything. There will be no peace for the dead if there are some embittered estonian people, who tried to take down this statue. Government made the right decision! To the cemetary, where is the right quiet place for memorializing.

Cut out one part if you don't feel it matching there. Nothing wrong what I said in the whole. There are some estonian nationalists, who do not feel that this statue match in front of the National Library. They felt that this statue was put up for the occupier and it is irritating them.. Maybe due to the uniform or the name it was called with.. or whatever the reason is nationalists end up with the point that this statue reminds them bitter memories of the Soviet regime.
However, history still remains as it is. Noone forbids to celebrate the victory over the fascists on May 9th. Maybe next time not to show the Soviet flags in Estonia on that date.

While government made a decision to MOVE the statue out of the sight of the nationalists, russian raging youngsters break city's property, steal from the stores and try to devastate other statues. Well, this is inhumane! Anyway, nationalists wanted to take this statue down by themselves. Not moved, destroyed. And government made a right decision to move it before something bad would have happened to it. But what answer comes from russians?

Before, I didn't care about the acts related to the statue, but now, when I see russian youngsters driving from city to city and devastating the stores, I see they went too far. Also they are attacking russian nonconformists, who go into the crowd and yell to stop. They break the stores, where russians are working - they make it harder to live for them. I see they do not respect their fellow russians and their homeland, my homeland. Now, if it were mine to do I would send these people, who spit onto my homeland, back to Russia.

I have learned 7 years russian language. I must confess it is much harder than learning english.. at least for me. My teacher, who is estonian, have shown many sights in the cities of Russia (on the pictures), have spoke many interesting stories about Russia. About this heavy clock, cannon and much other things. I would like to see some of those heavy golden roofs. I haven't said anything bad against Russia and won't change this opinion about it.
I am just talking about those devastating russian youngsters in Estonia.

Andreas

It is not necessary to think of marauders as about all country, in fact in all countries there were such cases

Andreas

On May, 9 without a statue, all the same that a cheeseburger without cola

to Nina
Like I said, I am just talking about those devastating russian youngsters in Estonia.

to Maha
Celebrating and memorializing come from the heart and emotions. You can't let materia to influence this.
If I won't get presents on Christmas I would be still happy if relatives gather together.

There is no other word for it. NAZIS.
Looking hostoricly if there was no Red Army, then Germany would occupate you and sent most everyone to gas camps to die. You should be thankful. Look at your own estonian veterans who fought with the Soviets. That support the statue

Moving the statue makes estonians to nazis? Overstated.
And Soviets were nice to estonians, they weren't like nazis too?

And who said that Estonia wants to make the existence of the Red Army into nonexistent? What about those memorial objects of Soviets out of the city? No russians care about them.. these are growing into the grass.

And Estonia must be thankful slaves forever to those people who slaughtered them? It's time to be free of bitter memories of Soviet regime.

And who said that Estonia wants to make the existence of the Red Army into nonexistent?

All you hear on the new is the estnian authorities that are arresting and persecuting soldiers (who are in their 80's and 90's) estonians and russian who fought for the red army. Making them criminals and traitors

Arresting 80-90-year-old people? That is lame!

What you people do not understand is that the statue was MOVED, not destroyed. Far from persecuting!

Действия властей Эстонии осудил председатель комиссии по иностранным делам Сената Бельгии Франсуа Роелан дю Вивье. "Каким бы ни было отношение Эстонии к Советскому Союзу, это не может изменить тот факт, что оккупированную фашистскими войсками Эстонию освободили советские войска. Это требует уважения. Пытаться действовать иным образом - это все равно, что отворачиваться от исторической правды", - считает бельгийский сенатор.

Видный бельгийский политический деятель, государственный министр, бывший бургомистр Брюсселя и бывший министр национальной обороны Франсуа Ксавье де Доннеа заявил, что он "шокирован безответственными действиями эстонских властей". По его мнению, эстонские власти "спровоцировали беспорядки и серьезный общественно-политический кризис".

"Как бы ни сложилась после распада СССР история составлявших его стран, в то время Европу освобождали советские солдаты. Этот исторический факт нужно помнить и хранить память о тех, кто помог уничтожить самый отвратительный авторитарный режим", - отметил де Доннеа.

Резкой критике подверг снос памятника Солдату-освободителю Таллина бывший канцлер Германии Герхард Шредер. "То, как в Эстонии обходятся с памятью молодых русских солдат, отдавших жизнь в борьбе против фашизма, непочтительно и не укладывается ни в какие рамки", - заявил он. По мнению экс-канцлера ФРГ, подобное обращение с памятью о погибших "противоречит любому цивилизованному образу действий". И именно те, кто критикует российскую политику, ссылаясь на западные представления о ценностях, "сегодня не должны молчать", подчеркнул Герхард Шредер. В конце концов ведь не даром немцы обязались сохранять памятные мемориалы и военные захоронения и заботиться о них, добавил он.

Arresting 80-90-year-old people? That is lame!
Really???????
This has happened and caught attention of people worldwide. Don't even try to deny it

the country here is estonia, so we dont have to keep a bronze soldier in middle of our main town, there is no good memories about that for estonia, maybe for russians.. anyhow, there is lots of videos on internet how russians just destroy their monuments with bulldozers etc. if you want the bronze soldier so bad, lets move it to russia, and u all russians GO BACK TO RUSSIA IF YOU DONT LIKE YOUR LIFE HERE; LETS SEE HOW GOOD THE LIFE IS IN UR NICE RUSSIA!!!!

I don't underestand. On World War II You russians, came here, to keep your war with Germany. You came to our COUNTRY, OCCUPATED US. It wasn't even our war. Thousands of women were raped, killed, sent to Siber, our men had to fight in YOUR army. In 1941-1945 your soldiers destroyed many our statues from WW1. And now you have a problem if we move the statue to it's right position ? NOTE! We don't destroy it, we MOVE IT !